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#18487 - 04/14/08 04:57 PM Perhaps a little racism?
Anonymous Anonymous Unregistered	[b] Reverend Jeremiah Wright said 'goddamn America', and the right went ballistic. Yet, when Bush said, 'goddamn the Constitution' there was nary a peep. Bush cursed the Constitution because he didn't want to uphold it as he had sworn to do. He wanted to be a dictator. Wright damned America for its hypocrisy. Because it wasn't living up to its ideals. He condemned it for illegally invading a country that had done nothing to us. He pointed out that our government had conducted Nazi-like experiments on blacks by injecting them with syphilis during the Tuskegee experiments that went on for decades. He pointed out the unfair treatment blacks have suffered from in America--and so on. All of which is true. Nothing like the truth to piss off many Americans. Especially when spoken by a black man....cause like it or not America is still a racist nation. So goddamn the Constitution, but not America.
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#18491 - 04/16/08 03:32 AM Re: Perhaps a little racism? [Re: Anonymous]
lori32wf lori32wf enthusiast Registered: 11/18/02 Posts: 301 Loc: Louisiana	Okay, wait! I think I take offense on this. And THAT is the reason I stopped coming in here ;). First. Let me say I'm white, 37, and middle class, AND happen to be from the South. I have a child who will be voting in this election, so the family has been watching it closely. I don't care about the "history" being made. That has no appeal to me. What does is the candidates. What you're implying here is that ALL of America is racist. I beg to differ! I LOVE that there is a black man who's running and stands a GOOD chance of winning the nomination of MY party. I love that he is an educated man who knows how to speak, think, and act. I sympathize with the black people in this country. I think they didn't get a fair shake and agree something should be down to fix it. BUT, here's what I don't agree with. I am not a racist, never believe in that because God doesn't look at the color of our skin He looks at the heart. Just because I'm from the South people like to assume I'm some backwoods country bumpkin without a thought of her own rolling around in her head. So if there IS racism in this country it isn't just about color any more. It's about class, race, creed, weight, and, sexual orientation. It's NOT just about one set of people any more. And to think that it is makes you one of the racist. Sorry but that's the way I think. I happen to agree with Reverend Wright. I think America has been damned. But it's been done by US! Not just the government but by everyone who has lived in this country for the last 50 years. Or more! You know why? Because we're blind and stupid to the things going on in the world. It's so much easier to turn a blind eye to the homeless, the abused, the neglected, and to the elders of this country than it is to do something about it! We would rather throw up our hands and say we're too dumb to fix what's wrong with this country. Ya'll were the ones who screwed it up, fix it! (Talking about people in government, no anyone in particular.) It hasn't only been blacks that have been made an issue in this country. And we NEED to start remembering that! Edited by lori32wf (04/16/08 03:36 AM) _________________________ By losing you I not only lost love, I also lost my best friend. Don't know which hurts worse.
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#18493 - 04/16/08 04:12 PM Re: Perhaps a little racism? [Re: lori32wf]
Anonymous Anonymous Unregistered	'Trying to denigrate Obama, GOP Rep. Geoff [Jeff] Davis says of Obama: 'That boy's finger does not need to be on the button.' I'm glad your not a racist, Lori, but America, in general, is a racist nation. My god, America was built on slavery. Walk in any [white]church in America today and see how many blacks there are. "Sadly Sunday morning is the most segregated hour in the US." -- Barack Obama I have lived in the south, too, and racism is still very much alive and well. Just a note. Before the Civil War there were more slaves in the north than south. Lincoln never intended on freeing the slaves. Martin was killed by our racist government. There has been improvement in race relations--but racism is still smoldering beneath the surface. And it may be true, as according to some scientists, that racism is genetic in origin. As you say there is elitism among people based on race, ethnicity, social standing, wealth, etc. Seems the human race is bent of hating everyone--including itself.... *** “If I can send the flower of the German nation into the hell of war without the smallest pity for the shedding of precious German blood, then surely I have the right to remove millions of an inferior race that breeds like vermin”--Adolf Hitler At the heart of racism is the religious assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being” --Friedrich Otto Hertz “Racism, in the first place, is a weapon used by the wealthy to increase the profits they bring in by paying Black workers less for their work” --Angela Davis Lukewarm acceptance is more bewildering than outright rejection.” --Martin Luther King, Jr. A group of white South Africans recently killed a black lawyer because he was black. That was wrong. They should have killed him because he was a lawyer.” --A. Whitney Brown
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#18496 - 04/16/08 10:59 PM Re: Perhaps a little racism? [Re: Anonymous]
Cyrano Cyrano veteran Registered: 12/17/01 Posts: 1243 Loc: San Francisco / Isle of Mull.	Wright is played the race card for his own ends. Follow the money. It is profitable to damn America and be 'black' in church, yet Wright has a ten million dollar equity line and a ten thousand square foot home (bought by the church) and which is plumb in the middle of a white neighborhood. Go figure.
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#18497 - 04/16/08 11:13 PM Re: Perhaps a little racism? [Re: Cyrano]
yankee yankee Unregistered	It makes me cry to see what a mess the greedy rich bastards are making of America. Can't even drive to go to the mall, have to plan the gas used to go to grocery store and even the coupons don't help! I'm from Maine and haven't seen many black people. They don't like the cold. Come to think of it, winter sucks. Bring on the sunshine. Hey, that isn't racist! It's common sense baby! When you think about it. We are all victims of racism. The Irish, The Italians, The Brits (hell they invented it!) ...it goes on an on...its all a matter of who wants to be king of the hill and who has the most marbles today and wants to show off... that's called capitalism...shine up the marbles, sell them for profit and hire immigrants for cheap labor and ship overseas? Who gets rich? ...not the middle class? Some rich bastard who doesn't give a rat's ass who goes hungry...that's who... and there is no race card...let's face it...America is a racist nation, but so are all the European nations...they may not say it but they sure don't embrace the love of mankind... When it comes to fair play...I think we need to go back to the schoolyard bully. He knew how to divvy out justice...and if you could stand up to him, black or white...you ruled the school baby!
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#18539 - 05/02/08 07:24 AM Re: Perhaps a little racism? [Re: lori32wf]
Nate741 Nate741 addict Registered: 02/25/04 Posts: 444	Reverend wright has no right to speak when it comes to politics, by using his religiopus ties and appoinment to do so. He should not use it to abuse his right by adding the race card to it... just because he is black... He said nothing more in his speeches but poor us poor black persecuted black people. He is not helping obama but seriously undermining his ability to be a presidential candidate. Bush should be impeached on the basis of his pergery, his abuse of authority, his abuse of presidential power (VETO) and his lying to the american people to wage war on a nation who did nothing to us. It was not for the memory of 9/11 and the people, civilians lost, it was for his power hunger and greed and wantnig to be a dictator.
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