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#48292 - 08/31/11 12:34 PM A Happy Author
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My choice of thread titles is simply to add some psositive to a topic that has been mostly negative.

I have found the inspiration to write and publish again. Consequently I have much new material in the works, and have recently posted a story on the main ES site.

I am pleased to report that I have received a satisfactory level of feedback, which I find very encouraging. The average vote is also satisfying as far as that goes, but the feed back is really the interesting aspect of my satisfaction.

Feed back allows me to interact with the audience more intimately, by reponding to their comments and then asking questions if I feel so inclined. For me, it gives a better gauge of the sucess or failure of my story.

The ending of my recent story suggests that more will follow. That said, It is my belief that a successful story does leave the audience wanting more. And, most times that is where it should end. Consequently I often find myself faced with a delimma, do I continue or leave well enough alone?

If anyone is interested in carrying on this thread, I have more to discuss. But for now I will leave it at that.






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#48296 - 09/01/11 04:53 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: Hunterguy]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunterguy
... The ending of my recent story suggests that more will follow. ...
Yes. I almost always leave a hook ready for the sequel. For example:
Thinking aloud she wondered, “Well girl, what now?”
There was no immediate answer that she could think of.



 Originally Posted By: Hunterguy
... That said, It is my belief that a successful story does leave the audience wanting more. ...
Er ... I don't necessarily agree. For example, could you suggest a plot for the sequel to that well known sex story "Romeo and Juliet"?

(For those who don't know the story it can be summed up as "Boy and girl love each other. Their families disapprove. it ends badly.")
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#48297 - 09/01/11 10:23 PM Re: A Happy Author [Re: CharmBrights]
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Hunterguy, I think the danger with sequels is that they have to achieve the same greatness as the original to avoid being disappointing.

I like the original 2 chapters you wrote of Bill and Lisa best when they were on their own. The other chapters you wrote, both prequels and sequels, were 10s, but those 2 chapters were real masterpieces.

For this new story, I'd love to see the main characters go home and continue things. They've got a lot of catching up to do. Just the two of them, focused on each other. Then perhaps they get to know their friends a bit better. Learn more about each other's sexual quirks.

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#48299 - 09/02/11 09:39 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: CharmBrights]
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 Originally Posted By: CharmBrights
 Originally Posted By: Hunterguy
... That said, It is my belief that a successful story does leave the audience wanting more. ...


Er ... I don't necessarily agree. For example, could you suggest a plot for the sequel to that well known sex story "Romeo and Juliet"?

(For those who don't know the story it can be summed up as "Boy and girl love each other. Their families disapprove. it ends badly.")



Point taken, however I might suggest that those who have read that story -- developed an interest to follow future works of the referenced author. So the statement "It is my belief that a successful story does leave the audience wanting more." , may not always indicate more of the same story, but at least more from the same author.

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#48300 - 09/02/11 10:23 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: Girlie1980]
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 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
Hunterguy, I think the danger with sequels is that they have to achieve the same greatness as the original to avoid being disappointing.


I can't argue with that. However, I find it a challenge that helps push my creativity.

 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
I like the original 2 chapters you wrote of Bill and Lisa best when they were on their own. The other chapters you wrote, both prequels and sequels, were 10s, but those 2 chapters were real masterpieces.


Your to kind.

I do understand that the plot can drag on and/or get monotonous, or maybe better said, stray from the original. This is why I encourage feedback, and when adequately received, along with a little interaction on my part, often becomes "plot development 101". As in, my audience indicates where I lost them, and when requested, offers some direction. I then go back and conduct further editing, etc. This is not to say that my sequels achieve the same level of, well if I may borrow your term, greatness… But it may help me to realize when a story should end, despite the audience’s request for more.


 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
For this new story, I'd love to see the main characters go home and continue things. They've got a lot of catching up to do. Just the two of them, focused on each other. Then perhaps they get to know their friends a bit better. Learn more about each other's sexual quirks.


Reading this last comment provokes a lot of creative thought. The story you are referring to was not at all the main theme of what I had begun to write. The original story, which is yet to be published, needed some additional plot development to make sense of the story's climax. So I had to write something that would allow the audience to accept the events that would later unfold. But in reading your comments, I now realize that the original, which was meant to be chapter 2, is still to much of a leap. It may just end up as another of the main character's adventures, or something entirely separate.

Thank you both for your words of wisdom.

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#48310 - 09/04/11 04:30 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: Girlie1980]
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 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
... The other chapters you wrote, both prequels and sequels, were 10s, but those 2 chapters were real masterpieces. ...
AN ASIDE
That's what is wrong with voting on every amateur writing site I know. If everything is a 10 how do you, personally, reward "real masterpieces"?
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#48316 - 09/12/11 11:54 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: CharmBrights]
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 Originally Posted By: CharmBrights
 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
... The other chapters you wrote, both prequels and sequels, were 10s, but those 2 chapters were real masterpieces. ...
AN ASIDE
That's what is wrong with voting on every amateur writing site I know. If everything is a 10 how do you, personally, reward "real masterpieces"?


Charmbrights,

My response to that is; "Cast your vote according to your conscience."

I am of the opinion that a great number of members of the Audience want to encourage authors to keep writing and consequently cast a vote that is more favourable than perhaps deserved. And while I myself appreciate the votes no matter how skewed they are, I do appreciate the votes that reflect one's honest opinion as well, especially when accompanied with a short critique, or at the least, a brief reasoning for a lower than average vote.

So to address your concen... If a story, whihc is above average but not a masterpiece, has accrued a lofty average; simply vote according to your opinion. If this brings the average down, so be it. That way when you cast a higher vote, for a story that you may classify a masterpiece, then at least you and that author will know the results are worthy.

In the end that probably means that real masterpieces are only separated by a .10 or .20 from those that are above average, but that is the reality of an amateur site. Really, we just need more people to vote, and eventually the voting system will correct itself.

My thoughts and opinions for what they are worth.

HG

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#48319 - 09/12/11 04:03 PM Re: A Happy Author [Re: Hunterguy]
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A real masterpiece should prompt a personal message telling the author how glad you are to have read it.
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#48332 - 09/16/11 03:24 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: Girlie1980]
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 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
A real masterpiece should prompt a personal message telling the author how glad you are to have read it.
As an author on here, my personal preference is feedback rather than votes. I even like meaningful criticism as it may help me to write better, but nothing cheers an author so much as "Worth a ten for the last paragraph alone" which I once received for my story Carol's Craving.
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#48480 - 11/17/11 10:50 AM Re: A Happy Author [Re: CharmBrights]
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I posted this in another thread, but I have a friend creating a new erotic story site and he's just going with a simple "Like" button because of all the controversy and the meaninglessness of voting. If you like a story, click it, if not, no harm, no foul.
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