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#48634 - 01/13/12 03:57 AM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: DarkHorse]
CharmBrights CharmBrights old hand Registered: 09/20/02 Posts: 896 Loc: Tirphil	Originally Posted By: DarkHorse Yes, but then you're not writing porn and to prove it, try selling any of those types of stories to a porn site and see how far you get. Eighteen of my offerings are for sale on a mainstream pornography e-book site and some of them are available on kindle via the world's largest bookseller. _________________________ News of ALL my novels on charmbrights.webs.com/novels.htm.
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#48635 - 01/13/12 04:57 AM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: CharmBrights]
DarkHorse DarkHorse stranger Registered: 10/11/07 Posts: 21	A. I suspect the mainstream e-book pornography site doesn't vet the e-books that are submitted and probably just includes erotica anyway. B. Amazon doesn't allow anything sexual explicit so I'm a bit surprised it's allowing you to publish there. C. You write erotica, not porn, and very good erotica too. In fact most writers of erotica get huffy if you call their work 'porn'.
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#48636 - 01/13/12 03:59 PM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: DarkHorse]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1356	I've bought sexually explicit stuff on Amazon. They also have an adult toy section that asks you to confirm you are over 18. Perhaps, DarkHorse, Amazon thinks you are under 18?
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#48638 - 01/13/12 04:26 PM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: Girlie1980]
DarkHorse DarkHorse stranger Registered: 10/11/07 Posts: 21	I'm referring to their kindle publishing program. But I think I've found the answer. Amazon doesn't allow you to publish through their kindle publishing program "pornography or offensive depictions of graphic sexual acts", the keyword being "offensive". So pornography is not allowed but depictions of graphic sexual acts are, so long as they're not offensive depictions and not pornographic.
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#48639 - 01/13/12 04:27 PM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: DarkHorse]
DarkHorse DarkHorse stranger Registered: 10/11/07 Posts: 21	Oh, and adult toys aren't porn. ;-)
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#48640 - 01/14/12 09:30 AM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: DarkHorse]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1356	I just put in the bit about toys to reinforce the case that Amazon allows sales of sexual things.
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#48643 - 01/15/12 04:08 AM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: Girlie1980]
CharmBrights CharmBrights old hand Registered: 09/20/02 Posts: 896 Loc: Tirphil	Originally Posted By: DarkHorse ... B. Amazon doesn't allow anything sexual explicit so I'm a bit surprised it's allowing you to publish there. ... and I'm referring to their kindle publishing program. But I think I've found the answer. Amazon doesn't allow you to publish through their kindle publishing program "pornography or offensive depictions of graphic sexual acts", the keyword being "offensive". So pornography is not allowed but depictions of graphic sexual acts are, so long as they're not offensive depictions and not pornographic. The two books specifically are listed as: PLANTATION REBELLION The white planters thought they were rulers of their small world in Africa, watching with avid interest as girls were whipped in front of them for their amusement, for infringing the rules in even a small way. All the women were erotically turned on by the scene but the indigenous people were not prepared to be dominated by the whites any longer. They turned on their previous owners in a savage act of rebellion and forced them into acts of extreme debasement and humiliation! The main theme of the book is sexual torture and humiliation of three white women in the hands of the "natives". PLANTATION HOUSE This book details how, after the successful rebellion, the Black overseer, Saul, took over the plantation and turned it into a brothel, staffed only by white whores, starting with the former owner of the plantation. I do not see how anyone can think they are not pornographic. They were specifically written for the BDSM market. Quite apart from copyright issues, Art would not want either of them on this site. (PS Please do not confuse my marketing strategy with my personal predilections.) _________________________ News of ALL my novels on charmbrights.webs.com/novels.htm.
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#48645 - 01/15/12 07:24 AM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: CharmBrights]
DarkHorse DarkHorse stranger Registered: 10/11/07 Posts: 21	The difference between pornography and erotica is a BIG topic. I knew of one law professor who said that there had to be an element of violence for something to be pornographic. Feminists would argue that anything sexually graphic and degrading to women is pornography. Personally I think it depends on intent - if the intent is to titillate for titillation sake (eg the sole aim is to titilate the reader) then it's pornography.
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#48660 - 01/22/12 01:58 PM Re: Working around the limitations of erotica [Re: DarkHorse]
Jake Jake addict Registered: 02/27/01 Posts: 593 Loc: Northeastern US	I think porn and erotica are the same about 90% of the time. A lot of people are writing porn, but like to call it erotica. That said, I don't think there really are rules for porn, whereas there are definitely rules, like HPA, for mainstream erotica. If you don't have a HPA (Happy Ever After) ending in your erotica forget anyone publishing it. You're going to have to go it on your own. I think the only real distinction for a lot of people between "porn" and "erotica" is how explicit the language is, and maybe the frequency of the sex. But if you sample around, a lot of "erotica" is moving closer and closer to "porn." _________________________ Website: Jake's Wonderland Twitter: JakeMarlowWrtr
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