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#44740 - 01/15/10 09:49 AM Re: H E A D [Re: diamonddan]
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Thanks Mate
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#44741 - 01/15/10 11:32 AM Re: H E A D [Re: AntEater]
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He doesn't really see me. He sees a little sliver of me, and the rest of what he sees is some construction his mind made. She is very much not like me. I wouldn't like her either.
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#44743 - 01/16/10 02:15 PM Re: H E A D [Re: Girlie1980]
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AE, I get the impression that your relationship started off at a high point and then gradually declined. Ours is not like that. It makes dramatic swings between extremes. And a lot of little swings during the course of the more major swings. The recent high was very high, so it seems fitting that the current low should be very low.

I'm pretty sure the swings are caused by him. I'm otherwise a very level person. But I am sure I contribute to making them as big as they are.

Things have been so much worse than this, that right now I feel relatively secure. There were times when I didn't know if our relationship would last another day.

He imagines me to be a person who is very weak and incompetent and fragile. I feel like I am the opposite -- strong and capable and resilient -- and other people seem to agree with my perspective. The worst times in our relationship were the times when I believed his view of me, and during those times every bump in the road felt overwhelming and exhausting. It was hard for me to deal with that -- being a person who he and I both resented so much, and a person who struggled with everything. And I didn't behave very well at the time. (I guess we all learn over time the coping skills that fit with our particular issues, and so I never learned to cope with being this person that I really wasn't.) I don't think he has ever recovered from the way I was then. Now I know that it is important for me to maintain enough contact with other people that I can often be reminded of the truth. That seems to work well at keeping the false person away.

There were times that all I really needed from him was a few words like "you're doing fine" or "everything will be ok". But he couldn't give me that. He didn't believe that I was doing fine or that things would be ok. He believed that I was making a mess of things, and they would never ever go back to a state that was bearable.

Leftover from those times, I still have trouble trusting him. But I want to. And it seems worth taking the risk, so I just dive in and don't worry about it. No defenses. Just vulnerable me.

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#44782 - 01/18/10 05:07 AM Re: H E A D [Re: Girlie1980]
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Hi Girlie,
I didn't mean to say that are situations are exactly alike. It was just that I could see you swinging between highs and lows, which is much like my situation, although the cause is very different.

Our relationship did start on a great high.
It then settled down to a sustainable level, I think if it had continued at the initial level it would have killed me, but boy would I have died with a smile on my face.
The intensity then started to decline little by little.

My wife has not had a simple life, and I think still carries a lot of baggage related to a lot of issues in her early times. And in the last few years her bother died and then her father. She now has to carry much of her mother, emotionally.
A number of years ago she decided to give up work. Since then she has found it difficult to find a purpose.

I'm back home now. We have started to talk, we know what much of the problems are, which is a good start. We both want to sort things out. I'm sure we will.

Thanks and good luck

Ant
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#44783 - 01/18/10 05:42 AM Re: H E A D [Re: AntEater]
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Good luck, AE!
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#44842 - 01/19/10 11:52 PM Re: H E A D [Re: AntEater]
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Uncle Ant:

Here's a poem that I wrote a few months ago, around a time when me and this guy friend I was "dating" (more like fucking) were going through some stuff. **Yes, I'm not only sexy AND a monogamous self proclaimed nympho, but I'm also a romantic AND a poet.**

Connection
Clicking like two human peas in this pod of a world,
We make a connection.
Two lonely souls, longing for companionship and compassion,
We feed off each others' affections.
Mentally, we are like two spiritual kinfolk,
Liking the same things, thinking the same thoughts.
Emotionally, we're like newborn souls in this lonely, lifeless world,
Jumping the same hurdles, both thinking that maybe we ought
To slow down, cause it feels so good holding you
Being with you, fear can easily creep in.
Cause we both know what the past was like,
Full of darkness and coldness and unnecessary sins.
And we both know that this life feels so good right now
But the present is here, and the future is soon.
We don't want to stop; we face the unknown,
Knowing that these feelings comes only once in a blue moon.
So, again, we make a connection
Mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically.
Together, we make a connection,
Together, in this lonely world, just you and me.
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#44882 - 01/24/10 08:18 PM Re: H E A D [Re: nadiana223]
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Well, it appears that things have swung back the other way again.

Today after sex we were laying there and I said "I love you." He replied "I love you too." And it sounded true. Sometimes he says it out of habit and we both know he doesn't mean it. But this one sounded real. So I said "really?" And he said "of course!" with that tone he uses when something is supposed to be so obvious and certain that there can't be any wondering about it. (And it WAS obvious. I could feel the difference in the way he was watching my reactions during sex and seemed to be enjoying that.)

So I just laughed at him and told him he is ridiculous. He made some joke about quantum physics. And another one related to chaos philosophy. And I laughed at him some more and rolled my eyes.

He has been very cheerful all day today. So, let's see how long it lasts before the dark cloud descends again.

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#44883 - 01/24/10 11:03 PM Re: H E A D [Re: Girlie1980]
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Wow. That's wonderful, Girlie. :-) I hope it lasts a LOONNGGG time. Any man who can joke about quantun physics after sex and NOT get kicked out of the bed deserves a chance. LOL.
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#44886 - 01/25/10 10:08 AM Re: H E A D [Re: nadiana223]
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Happy day Girlie.
Even if the flashing posting is giving me a headache, its a small price to pay. I'm so please for you.
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#44910 - 01/27/10 08:22 AM Re: H E A D [Re: AntEater]
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What dark cloud?
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