#43063 - 10/28/09 01:40 PM
Re: Developing story ideas through this medium???
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Hunterguy
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So what you're talking about is more a series of stories about the same characters in a given situation, not truly a novella or a novel.
Yes that is correct.
That might be easier, but I still think you need an executive editor or two to whip everything into something cohesive. I've actually read a couple mysteries by the Mystery Guild of America where they did this and it was a little weird to see the huge swings of style from one section to the next. And they did have an editor.
You mention sections, I think what I was going for is more of a creative challenge, rather than sections of a story. With the charachters and plot developed colaboratively all authors would have a basis to begin. Seeing how they incorporate that commonality into a story would be entertaining, at least to me. This is similar to artistic expression, a class of would be artists may all have different interpretations of a subject or scene. In one sense I see an exceutive editor as being redundent, but on the other hand such an editor could act like moderator/instructor.
All of that said, I don't know if I could do it anyway. I already have more writing on my plate than i can get to. I have been trying to finish the same ebbok forever and i have several story ideas just hanging out there.
I can appreciate where you are coming from. I am working on a story that I hope has potential as an ebook, and like you have several other stories started but incomplete. That said I find it helpful to break away occaisionally and work on something new and different, to help get the creative juices flowing again, hence this thread.
If you are too busy don't sweat it. Hopefully there will be others who will take up the challenge.
Regards,
Scott
Edited by Hunterguy (10/28/09 01:44 PM)
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#43066 - 10/28/09 08:21 PM
Re: Developing story ideas through this medium???
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Hunterguy,
I liked the take mentioned earlier by another poster.
Create a scenario, and a set location, and let various authors bring their own unique characters to it. That way the fresh ideas and viewpoints add to the story instead of detract from it.
Example.
A sex club has a yearly contest to add just three new couples. Its based at one of those meat and greet swingers dance clubs. All year its strictly an off premises pickup spot.
But the management keeps its eye on the best of the new 'talent' during the year. For New Year's Eve they issue a limited number of special invites. The doors are locked and only the full swinging members and the potential initiates are allowed in.
Each couple has to 'audition' by having sex, only with each other, in front of the assembled audience. The old members then vote in three new couples and the rest go home to try again next year, if invited back.
Same building. Same rules. Just two hot couples, gay, lesbian or straight, fucking their hearts out to get into the club.
Only one or two characters, handled by the overall editor, to consistently introduce the new authors work.
That gives the contributing author free rein to do what ever they want, imagine the hottest sex possible, and contribute without having to worry about all of the traditional drawbacks to this kind of collaboration.
And they could contribute more than once, as long as it was with two totally different people competing to get the coveted spots.
After a while, and maybe a vote by ES readers, the winning three couples authors could collaborate further. Say each author write up the winning initiation ceremony (group sex) for their couple. The club would initiate one couple at a time. Then the winning three authors could 'introduce' their characters to each other in a joint effort later.
That way all that would be needed is an intitial story setting up the scenario for others to see whats needed, then an editor to paste in the new people in the opening scene, and close it again consistently.
One of my unfinished storys was an old mansion converted into a resturaunt and night club. It was closed to the public, for nights just like the above, four nights a year. New Years for the contest, and then three initiation nights on the other three solar days. (Fall, spring and summer).
The original owners nephew still owned it, but never attended the 'swing nights' nude.
But he was occasionally brought in as a mediator to settle any disputes among the permanent members of the club. Course, he got to see everything, just couldn't join in so he could be impartial.
If the members got too out of hand he could banish any couple, or sell the home itself to end the experiment.
Any ideas about something along those lines???
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#43071 - 10/29/09 09:20 AM
Re: Developing story ideas through this medium???
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Hunterguy
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In a similar vein I have recently done some draft work on something either called 'The Dark Room' or 'Cafe Flesh' (after the movie of the same name) which would be a series of unconnected weekly 'entertainments' that take place in the same location for an audience ... the connectors being the location & audience rather than any characters. Something like that could certainly work as a multi-Author project.
Hunterguy,
I liked the take mentioned earlier by another poster.
Create a scenario, and a set location, and let various authors bring their own unique characters to it. That way the fresh ideas and viewpoints add to the story instead of detract from it.
Perhaps I was being a bit close minded, I must admit, I did not see the full potential of this when Cum Girl first introduced the idea. But after going back and reading her post over again along with yours I now understand how this could work.
Like I said I am in for what ever gets the most participation. The only parts I am not clear on is how you explained the editor's involvement;
Only one or two characters, handled by the overall editor, to consistently introduce the new authors work.
then an editor to paste in the new people in the opening scene, and close it again consistently.
Are you suggesting that each story have the same lead in, be it a paragraph or a page, so that each set of characherters would be introduced in exactly the same way?
Hunterguy
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#43072 - 10/29/09 09:53 AM
Re: Developing story ideas through this medium???
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Got to think a bit more about this during an extra long shift tonight.
The Mansion story was pretty well developed. It was basically done, except it was pulling Book I of my trilogy in the wrong direction. The main character would never have let his Grandfather's home become a club and restaruant. He also wouldn't have taken such a public, even if disguised, role in the sex club.
I even had the first auditioning couple and their act well thought out.
If enough other authors are willing to commit to this idea, I will set it up under another account. I'd write the initial scene setting story and the first couple competing for one of the three permanent spots offered by the swing group.
That first audition scene would hopefully set the tone for the rest.
Here is what I had in mind for the Authors:
a) Minimum 7,500 (10,000?) words
b) One couple interacting on a stage area in the converted mansion.
Gay, Lesbian or Hetero.
c) The audience is in darkness and masks and will not interact in any way.
d) The couple could use any props they bring that will fit in one suitcase.
The club will provide larger items upon request (just ask me first)
Bathtub, weight bench, bondage cross, bed, etc.
e) The couple controls the lighting and music, if any.
Either skits, sex or exhibition.
Boss and secretary, Sheik and harem girl, Bondage session,
First time anal, Dancer and customer, straight sex,
mutual masturbation, Toys, ect.
Whatever you can come up with thats hot and sexy.
f) Write with the idea you have to impress a jaded audience of judges
and beat out nine other couples that are pretty desperate to win.
g) Start them at home on New Year's Eve afternoon preparing for the event.
Go into why they want to swing, how they came up with their audition idea.
Are they nervous, confident, scared, horny? One is more so than the other?
The point of view can be from either or both members of the team.
First person, Third person, or omnipresent editor.
Don't interact with the personnel, I'll add that later.
You will get to see it before it posts and make one round of changes.
h) The couple will be separated from all the other contestants, in a private room
until they are called in. They will not watch any of the other couples perform.
i) Eleven entrants (stories) maximum. My opener counts for one of the spots.
j) The action on stage can last no longer than 30 minutes.
But the story can cover any time frame before the audition.
Use as much story time as needed to describe what happens in 30 minutes.
After their performance the couple is whisked away back to their little room.
You can cover their reaction to their performance, but not if they won or not.
k) The contest would posted in one continuos multi chapter story.
Since we don't have a contes section on ES, it would appear in the FM section.
The action could be MF, MM or FF despite that.
Any sexual action, that Art does not already prohibit, is fair game.
l) Concentrate on the relationship, motivation and the sex in equal measure.
But I would request no watersports, scat, extreme pain or 'impossibles'.
Try to refrain from measurement cliches. (44 DD tits, 14 inch cock, etc.)
m) The final editing must already be completed.
I'd suggest that you have at least one other person read before you send it in.
Maybe even a writer that has already contributed.
I'd eliminate myself automatically from any and all voting/prizes.
That way I can be impartial as possible.
If we actually get enough reads and notice . . . and get enough episodes to make it interesting . . . I'd ask that Art contribute a $100 check. Just like he already does monthly for us.
Just reply here if you might be interested . . . if we get at least six people to commit to it now . . . I'll talk with Art and start a contest thread specific to this effort. If it becomes a reality, he could advertise it for us. We could add the others later.
Everything is up for discussion, and I'm not trying to hijack anything here, but in between working on my own chapters I should have time to pull this off. I just haven't found a way to work what I have already done back into my trilogy yet.
No biggie if the idea never happens, takes a few months to gel, or starts out gangbusters.
Just offer to help if we get some real interest.
Thanks.
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#43075 - 10/29/09 10:41 AM
Re: Developing story ideas through this medium???
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LOL!
We were typing at the same time!
All I would do is set the mansion description as a backdrop. I'd explain how the swinging group works, the politics of the 12 ruling couples, the mediator's role, and why they add only three permanent couples a year. All of this would be told from the impartial nephew's point of view, The Arbiter.
Once thats done, I'd stop and switch over, as if I was another writer, and I was a contestant and it was a valid submission.
I'd provide an example of what the first couple goes thru as they think of accepting the surprising invitation. How they came up with the ideas for their audition. They would arrive at the mansion on New Year's Eve. I'd discuss how nervous they were waiting to go on stage.
The same man (let's say a generic butler) would escort the couple thru the mansion to the stage and back again. (no need for any interaction)
Once that was done, the author's could do as little or as much setup as they wished to.
Their story could be months in the making. Maybe they were a couple who have competed for the spots, and lost before, and REALLY want to win this time. Could be a couple that have never even swung before, but desperately wish to find a safe, controlled, erotic setting to do so.
> > > > > < < < < <
The only storyline rule is that they start in the same generic waiting room I've described . . . compete for up to 30 minutes on the stage as its written using their suitcase of props (and larger items I say are onsite and can be wheeled on stage in between acts) . . . and end back up in the waiting room.
> > > > > < < < < <
As far as what I would do as a contest editor?
Just work with the author's to make sure they understand the rules, offer advice, Tell them what items can be brought on stage, and use my Contest Account to keep everything attached to one single story thread.
That would prevent things from getting out of control. I would be the only one with the access to add stories.
If a story submission attempt is truly horrible, and I feel it doesn't add to the effort, I'd have a few non competing authors, from the forums, vote on it. Only eleven spots!
Don't expect that would ever happen, especially on this site, but that would be fair, I'd think. If it's not even edited and formatted, it'd would be rejected automatically anyway.
I thought about having one character, either the nephew or Mrs. Parker (elderly dom and one of the twelve voting judges), open and close each author's story. That's not necessary, but it might make things more consistent for the readers.
Frankly I would rather not do that, and let the Author's story speak totally for itself.
The only reason I mention it is that as the story chapters age, non-paying readers will not be able to read the earlier postings. If they can't read all of the chapters at all times, it would get confusing for them.
But if we post them all in less than 30 days, in a randomly picked order every two days, they will all be available to the general public.
I'd love to give everyone a month to write their stuff, say until the end of November.
The contest would end on New Year's Eve, and all stories would be posted a full week before that.
Voting could happen one of two ways. Either as normal using the system we already have, or in a poll over at the forums. One vote per person for one story.
Have to work out what the best way is with the lowest potential for fraud and ballot stuffing.
As long as we produce eleven great stories by some of ES's best authors . . . bragging rights and the prize would be secondary . . . at least in my opinion.
Make better sense now?
Sorry.
Low on sleep . . . long shift . . . been up too many hours straight as it is.
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