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#43815 - 12/09/09 05:26 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: AntEater]
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I've never had any difficulty with spelling or grammar or punctuation. But I don't always choose to use my best English. It doesn't suit every situation.
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#43821 - 12/09/09 06:14 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
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I think I once told some in here that when it comes to writing the sex scenes, if you think in whole sentences then you're doing it wrong.
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#43852 - 12/10/09 11:53 AM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Jake]
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 Originally Posted By: Jake
... Now I use the services of a volunteer editor and it's greatly improved by my work. I A minor typo here and there doesn't bother me, ...
Sorry, Jake.

On the main points: Second person POV forces the reader to take on the role being addressed and is a big turn off if the sex, age, etc. of the character addressed does not match the person reading.

For example: "They tore your panties off but left the stockings and heels as two of them sucked your tits." This does not work well for me, as a seventy year old male who is not in to cross-dressing, though I must admit I now have bigger tits than some females I have dated.
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#43855 - 12/10/09 04:01 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: CharmBrights]
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I would think you would then identify with the observer who is speaking.
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#43928 - 12/11/09 04:00 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
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And there's my editor now, making me better once again. \:\) Seriously, that's my major problem with 2nd person stories too. You can't tell "me" what I am feeling, especially if it's something that doesn't actually turn me on. I am not saying 2nd person stories don't have their fans out there, but I think it is a limited audience.

I think blaming the reader for not being able to see past your typos is wrong headed. Everyone has a different tolerance fot that. I will say that no one should cruelly rip you for typos in something they are getting for free!

I have used the Fishtank several times and yes, they will rip you over any little thing. Some of the critisism is very good and helpful, some of it is just over the top and more questions of style or preference. Generally, though, you can get some good input from them.

When bad grammar is intentional as part of writing in dialect it's acceptable, though sometimes still annoying. ;\) When it is just bad grammar, it is not.
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#43943 - 12/12/09 06:56 AM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
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 Originally Posted By: Girlie1980
I would think you would then identify with the observer who is speaking.
In the specific case I quoted "They tore your panties off but left the stockings and heels as two of them sucked your tits" if I, as the reader, identify with the narrator then who, in my mind, is the "you" being attacked? Or do you mean I am expected to convert from second to third in my mind as I read? That's asking too much.

Even worse is first person addressed to a second person:
"I tore your panties off but left the stockings and heels as the other two sucked your tits"
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#43952 - 12/12/09 09:38 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: CharmBrights]
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No, that is definitely too much. I can't imagine a second person story being successful with so many people in it.
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