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#43038 - 10/26/09 01:08 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
Jake Jake addict Registered: 02/27/01 Posts: 592 Loc: Northeastern US	When I was younger, early 90's, at the dawn of a lot of this online stuff I did quite a bit of cyber sex and I used to get really into phone sex, but with the cyber I basically felt like I was writing a story for someone through IM, and if I want to write a story I'll just got write one. The phone sex I just sort of got over because of a lack of fun partners. What I like about writing erotica is creating a universe and creating characters and you cannot fully do that with only IMs. And one of the biggest knocks against a lot of the stories I read here is that very few people seem to but a lot of thought into writing realistic characters who seem to have any motivation for what they do. come on, even write a flimsy motivation, I certainly have! But don't paint someone was a faithful wife and mother, who is kind of reserved, and then in 2 seconds she drops to her knees because she sees a big cock. Just doesn't scan. _________________________ Website: Jake's Wonderland Twitter: JakeMarlowWrtr
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#43724 - 12/07/09 10:37 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Jake]
Ratfink Ratfink stranger Registered: 11/16/02 Posts: 11	My story "Two Scarves" was written as a kind of follow-up to a cybersex session, and it was originally an email to the person in question. I was quite proud of it at the time but when I shared it on the Fish Tank I got (rightly) hauled over the coals for the use of 2nd person and point-of-view issues. In other words its main weaknesses are a direct result of its origins and things that don't matter in that medium.
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#43730 - 12/08/09 11:24 AM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Ratfink]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1321	I would think that would add realism. Betcha that it was received that way because of most people's very limited vision. They believe that quality builds in the same way every time. That certain signs of quality (ie consistent point of view) are necessary before more advanced ones can be created. The difference between a normal person and a genius is the ability to make leaps, skipping over steps. Genius is often recognized to come with failings on the lower levels.
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#43736 - 12/08/09 11:58 AM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
Jake Jake addict Registered: 02/27/01 Posts: 592 Loc: Northeastern US	I understand what Ratfink is saying and the Fisktank had a valid point about POV. It's is REALLY annoying when people break that. If the entire story is from the husband's perspective, for example, then he can't tell me what the wife he is watching bang another guy is feeling. He could infer, like, "Bob knew what the way Sally was squealing that she must be cumming." But if the entire story is from Bob' perspective, regardless of 1st, 2nd or 3rd person, you cannot have "Sally loved how that cock felt going inside her." Bob can't know that. And if Bob is watching from a closet, or through a window, or something like that, there are going to be certain things he just cannot see, unless you are careful about your staging. Sorry, but inconsistant POV is confusing for your readers, it's not about someone's lack of vision. _________________________ Website: Jake's Wonderland Twitter: JakeMarlowWrtr
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#43759 - 12/08/09 02:14 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Jake]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1321	But if it were a cyber-sex conversation, you expect both people to make some assumptions about things they can't see or ever really know. You expect there to be 2 individual people with their own REAL point of view, and each also having their own imagined version of the other's point of view.
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#43762 - 12/08/09 06:50 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
Ratfink Ratfink stranger Registered: 11/16/02 Posts: 11	I agree with you both! I think the story worked as an extension of the cyber-sex and for those that took it in that spirit. The relationship had a slight D/s edge and so to be telling her what she felt made sense to both of us. However I think anything that takes you out of the story is bad and POV shifts do that for some people.
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#43763 - 12/08/09 07:28 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Ratfink]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1321	And occasional typos do that for other people. Yet it is considered bad form to come down hard on someone for occasional typos.
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#43764 - 12/08/09 07:29 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
Girlie1980 Girlie1980 veteran Registered: 09/23/09 Posts: 1321	I guess I just think that people are way too hard on other people about really silly stuff. There is a lot of meaningful stuff to deal with in life. Why do we waste energy on things like that. Why can't we just say to ourselves "I don't get it, but it made sense to at least one person, so who am i to criticize."
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#43788 - 12/09/09 10:04 AM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
Jake Jake addict Registered: 02/27/01 Posts: 592 Loc: Northeastern US	My stories were rife with typos for years because basically I'd write them and then post them with nothing but a spellcheck in between. Now I use the services of a volunteer editor and it's greatly improved by work. I minor typo here and there doesn't bother me, but really awful grammar will cause me to stop reading. I do not send nasty comments to other authors, though. And I usually only vote if I am voting high. _________________________ Website: Jake's Wonderland Twitter: JakeMarlowWrtr
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#43805 - 12/09/09 12:01 PM Re: improv as erotica? [Re: Girlie1980]
AntEater AntEater Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/06/08 Posts: 1899 Loc: UK	Originally Posted By: Girlie1980 And occasional typos do that for other people. Yet it is considered bad form to come down hard on someone for occasional typos. I visited the Fishtank for a while at one point. I think that over there typos are considered a shootable offense. The advise I was given was leave your pride behind before you post there, no matter how good you think you are you'll be torn to shreds in the FishTank. Most readers on ES aren't too fussy about spelling. But some are. Most readers here just want some material to wank too. Actually the human brain is amazingly good at handling errors. There is of course the famous Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. I once had an Internet discussion with a spelling pedant where I pointed out that there is a basic premise in RFCs (Internet standard documents) that you should strict in what you send but lenient in handling what your receive. That with badly spelt posting many readers could read them with no problem and never noticed that errors. That his arguing that he found them hard to read was in fact his deficiency as much as that of the author. If he was a more proficient reader he would be better at error correction. For some reason he wasn't keen to accept my argument. Me? I can't spell for toffee _________________________ Anteater, or thanks to CG "Monsieur Manger de Tante" $\:D$
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