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#46922 - 11/03/10 09:43 AM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Jay]
IBMissbehaving Offline
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I don't think rape is about sex at all. It is however about total control. Not the type of control that comes with a D/s but complete and total control. That, my dear friends, is not sex to me.
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#46926 - 11/04/10 11:01 AM Re: hardcore rape [Re: IBMissbehaving]
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There are a lot of things that aren't inherently about sex, but can be used as scenarios to spice up sex.

If a relationship has control issues, it seems inevitable that they will show up in the sex that couple has. They definitely show up in MY sex life.

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#47055 - 11/28/10 04:01 PM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Jay]
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Rape isnt erotic. It is a disgusting thing.
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#47094 - 11/30/10 05:55 AM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Cindy]
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 Originally Posted By: Cindy
Rape isnt erotic. It is a disgusting thing.


I agree.

I have kept a close eye on this thread and have always stayed away from this discussion.

From a WRITER'S perspective, here are the dry facts, as depressing as they are.

One female was raped by a family friend at a pitifully young age. Her younger companion was forced to see, hear and almost feel every gruesome act. One boy was molested for months by his step-uncle, until he fought back to save the people he loved. Another girl was slowly coerced into having sex with her
her maternal grandfather. A baby resulted from the progression of sexual acts and was later aborted. Another younger boy was forced to have sex with his much older babysitter, far too young for him to even understand what was happening, just because she thought he was 'cute'.

From a READER'S perspective, they don't know ANY of the concrete, specific or glorified details of ANY of the above.

I personally would not write, or read, anything like I just described. As an author, I made myself imagine the above. Every single blow, touch and scream. It goes to the depth of character and how their experiences have crippled all of of their lives.

And unfortunately their relationships with the people who love them and can't ever seem to get close enough to offer any real help.

What I have actually written does contain some very difficult imagery . . . and I hope I balanced them out with some very wonderful things . . . all because as a writer it was, and still is, a challenge.

I personally know women that were raped as children and adults. They later became part of abusive denigrating relationships. I have known boys that had their childhood taken away from them by starting their sexuality far, far too early.

These people are out there. Bad evil people do exist. If they aren't locked up, they should be cut into tiny bite size pieces, while still alive, and fed to the carrion crows while they watch.

But no matter what you think of them, what they have done, or what society should do with them . . . what about the people left behind? Those that survived that is.

Too many take their own life, or purposefully place themselves in horrible danger thru sex, drugs and violence so they leave this world far, far too soon.

Where do they go? What kinds of relationships can they even have, when the very foundation of love and family most of us take for granted was destroyed too soon, or worse, never even existed at all?

One sly commenter, over at Literotica, commented that I seemed to be trying to write the 'Great American Novel' before I had even finished with my grade school primers.

I so wanted to say, 'What the HELL have you accomplished so far with YOUR life, buddy?!?'

I at least am trying to do something, in the manner my mind's eye sees it all too damn clearly. If it takes awhile for my skill to catchup with my vision? So be it!

This was on (and still is) a &@$#% free website!

Just because it's free for YOU to read, doesn't mean that there wasn't a great personal cost involved in getting it before your eyes!

I have mellowed a bit since then. It's been two years of hard, hard work. Lots of people have sweated right along with me for this project. Readers, voters, commenters, skeptics, critics, writers, editors and new Internet friends.

I'm not trying to be, or believe myself, to be a pompous ass.

I post on ES for a reason. There are rules here. When I do get to read, I like knowing I won't be confronted by some of the vile crap that sneaks in elsewhere. Or worse, is just nakedly out there, just to prove it CAN exist under the guise of free speech.

Hop online on any platform gaming site and the things you will hear over your headset will shock the hell out if you! Play Halo at ANY time of day and try to determine who is the worse culprits.

Eight to sixteen year olds? Seventeen to twenty-one? Or us older guys who ought to know better. That realm is unfortunately already a lost cause.

Here at least there are some rules. You can flirt with the limits as much as you like. But to truly be creative, you need to try to convey the same thing, but in a way that is just as real and impactful.

Some writers only put forth what's from their own experience, or their observable surroundings. How much more of a challenge to try and deal with the aftermath of the obvious and all too common place elsewhere on the web?

I feel sorry for my friends that have gone thru crap like I ticked off so carelessly at the start of this rant. I feel sorry for MYSELF and what I have had to personally endure.

I know that evil people exist . . . and the damage that they do far outlives them . . . but there is NO need for it to be permanent.

Or put up with stories, authors and websites that promote and glorify the behaviour we are trying to discuss here civilly.

I am guilty as anyone else, and can see the fascination and lure of it. Far too often I read and watch things that MOST normal people, in the bright light of day and public opinion, would classify as disgusting and socially useless.

Most of the time I share in their wish all of this would just vanish and fail to leave even a single trace it ever existed.

Most of the time.

There is a place in society for truly disturbing thoughts, words, stories, images and movies, up to a point. When it's crossed, the law SHOULD take over and handle it.

So to end this rant, there is a line. The closer you get to it, the grayer it becomes. Eventually you will get so fucking lost and confused that you won't even know when you have stepped over it.

As a writer, actor or artist . . . or even a very ordinary person struggling to make their way through life . . . you'd better have damn good reason for flirting with disaster or you won't have anything to show for it WHEN you are going to get burned.

Sextified

PS. Yes. This was another rant of mine only made possible by the wonders of typing on an iPhone. Sorry for the mistakes and typos. When will I learn not to get this excited and worked up at my job? Sheesh!

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Edited by Sextified (11/30/10 08:25 AM)

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#48558 - 12/18/11 11:49 AM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Sextified]
Firestorm
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I understand discussion to be a good thing and so long as it's polite dissent is simply a higher form of discussion...

BUT

I don';t really understand how people can come of this forum and complain about the rules the owner has set for the site.

If you came to my house, you are more than welcome join me in the livingroom after dinner and light up a good cigar while we visit. However, you are NOT allowed to fart.

Both smell and neither is commonly socially acceptable but one is allowed while the other isn't.

The reason.... simple. While I like the feeling letting go of a great fart gives me and at the right time find them incredibly funny I don't want them in my livingroom.... that's what the gas station bathroom down the road is for.

It's my house so I get to write the rules.

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#48559 - 12/18/11 08:04 PM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Anonymous]
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I'm looking for the "like" button on that last post. I guess I spend too much time on FaceBook.
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#48560 - 12/20/11 03:54 AM Re: hardcore rape [Re: Sextified]
CharmBrights Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 896
Loc: Tirphil
 Originally Posted By: Sextified
[quote=Cindy]Or put up with stories, authors and websites that promote and glorify the behaviour we are trying to discuss here civilly.
Tell me, please, do you approve of murder, or warfare?

If not, do you think that detective or war novels "promote and glorify the behaviour"?

What is the difference between detective or war novels and sex crime novels?

Just for the record: I do not approve of violence, sexual or otherwise, but I am happy to make money from describing (fictional, but not always consensual) BDSM activities in my novels.
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